Lee. i might be wrong but I do not think so. There is no way I am aware of that the state can hold you for more than 48 hrs or less without being charged. I would bet that everyone of those 15 ARE charged and are on pre-trial detention status... NOT pre-charged. I am more than willing to concede the argument if they are being helf with no charges BUT that's what habeus corpus prevents!/ I dont think u are juvenile. I think playing whatbaout is and I while I am aware of our differences I know as you as thoughtful and sincere and compassionate guy. The simple question was, HOW are they being abused. You have given an answer. I think your facts are wrong. Our mone are. But unless the constitution was changed I am unaware how a someone can be detained indefinitely with no charges pending.
I confess to not paying attention to our discussion's having been about these 15 cases ... and also to not having paid close attention to other details. I have been operating under the impression that several score of the 1200+ arrested for their part in the "insurrection" on January 6 remained incarcerated, not counting those who have been convicted of or have pled guilty to crimes and are serving their sentences. Looking it up just now, I see there are far fewer, about two and a half dozen, that fall into that category or one close to it (awaiting trial). Arrests are still being made, I know, because they continue to show up now and then in the local daily news here ... but I have been going by a lot of what now clearly look to be wildly inaccurate numbers based on the less than reliable source of morning coffee conversation at my favorite local cafe. So the violations of Sixth Amendment protections I was exercised about were or are largely if not wholly fictional.
So if you deem the accused to be "violent criminals, thugs and the mentally deranged", then fuck the Sixth Amendment ... that sums up your views on the right to a speedy trial? Maybe their cases will come to trial this side of the Greek Kalends but who cares?" ... because, after all, they are "Trumpanzees" ... not "mostly peaceful protesters" like those who burned down whole neighborhoods in Minneapolis and other cities during the six or seven months before January 6 and who were never arrested or charged with any crime.
Lee. i might be wrong but I do not think so. There is no way I am aware of that the state can hold you for more than 48 hrs or less without being charged. I would bet that everyone of those 15 ARE charged and are on pre-trial detention status... NOT pre-charged. I am more than willing to concede the argument if they are being helf with no charges BUT that's what habeus corpus prevents!/ I dont think u are juvenile. I think playing whatbaout is and I while I am aware of our differences I know as you as thoughtful and sincere and compassionate guy. The simple question was, HOW are they being abused. You have given an answer. I think your facts are wrong. Our mone are. But unless the constitution was changed I am unaware how a someone can be detained indefinitely with no charges pending.
I confess to not paying attention to our discussion's having been about these 15 cases ... and also to not having paid close attention to other details. I have been operating under the impression that several score of the 1200+ arrested for their part in the "insurrection" on January 6 remained incarcerated, not counting those who have been convicted of or have pled guilty to crimes and are serving their sentences. Looking it up just now, I see there are far fewer, about two and a half dozen, that fall into that category or one close to it (awaiting trial). Arrests are still being made, I know, because they continue to show up now and then in the local daily news here ... but I have been going by a lot of what now clearly look to be wildly inaccurate numbers based on the less than reliable source of morning coffee conversation at my favorite local cafe. So the violations of Sixth Amendment protections I was exercised about were or are largely if not wholly fictional.
So if you deem the accused to be "violent criminals, thugs and the mentally deranged", then fuck the Sixth Amendment ... that sums up your views on the right to a speedy trial? Maybe their cases will come to trial this side of the Greek Kalends but who cares?" ... because, after all, they are "Trumpanzees" ... not "mostly peaceful protesters" like those who burned down whole neighborhoods in Minneapolis and other cities during the six or seven months before January 6 and who were never arrested or charged with any crime.